Gerald Curtis on the Comfort Women Issue

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Posted by Ken Worsley at 7:24 pm on Thursday, April 5, 2007

Foreign Policy has recently published a short but insightful interview with Gerald Curtis, the Burgess Professor of Political Science at Columbia University. Professor Curtis has been honored with The Order of the Rising Sun, Gold and Silver Star by the government of Japan for his outstanding contributions to the study of Japan and the promotion of intellectual and political exchange between Japan and the United States.

Here are some highlights from that interview:

FP: …It seems like there’s been more reaction to the comfort women issue in the United States than in Asia. Why would the U.S. Congress want to get involved in a controversy that’s between Japan, China, and South Korea, but has nothing to do with the United States?

GC: It’s true that the congressional resolution that Congressman [Mike] Honda [of California] put forward deals with an issue that Americans are not directly a party to, which was the use of women in Asia for forced sex with the Japanese military. But when the Japanese prime minister sounded as though he was defending the actions of the Japanese military during the war, by saying that in some narrow sense, these women were not forced into prostitution—I mean, it’s really outrageous—that not only angered Korean-Americans and Chinese-Americans and others who have a direct interest in this issue, but it angered anybody who’s concerned about human rights and women’s rights. And the prime minister and the leadership in Japan handled it almost as badly as could be imagined. More recently, he’s been trying to undo the damage by saying that, as prime minister of Japan, he feels these women’s pain, he apologizes, and that he reaffirms the statement that was made in the 1990s by the then chief cabinet secretary, Mr. Kono, which was an official government apology for the treatment of these women.

FP: Is that enough?

GC: I don’t know what’s enough at this point because the situation has really gotten so nasty. These very conservative Japanese draw a line between what they say were women being forced by the Japanese government to provide sexual services, and women who were recruited some other way, possibly by middlemen. It’s a distinction without a difference. Some of these women were 14 and 15 years old. They were forced to become sex slaves for the Japanese military. So were middlemen used to recruit them? Yeah, probably. Did the military rape some of these women directly and recruit them themselves? Yes, definitely. The Japanese government says there’s no written evidence to confirm that the Japanese military forcibly recruited these women, but there’s the testimony of these 16 comfort women. It’s the worst possible issue for Japan. They can’t say anything that seems as though it’s defending the awful actions of the Japanese government during its militarist period, and expect that anybody anywhere is going to be sympathetic. Too many of the conservatives in Japan have convinced themselves that it’s just what they call the “left-wing American media” that is playing up this issue for its own purposes, without saying what those purposes are. So there’s a lot of self-delusion going on here about how bad this is for Japan’s image.

FP: According to the latest poll numbers, Abe is down to about a 35 percent approval rating just six months into his time in office. Why is he so unpopular?

GC: Because the public hasn’t been convinced that he knows what he wants to do about Japan’s domestic issues and how to do it. The public is concerned about things like healthcare, pensions, taxes, education of their children. What are his policies? It’s not clear. Plus, there’s the sense that after Koizumi’s radical approach, Abe is going back to politics as normal, the bad old ways. He doesn’t really have much leadership ability, to manage his own cabinet, etc. All of those things are contributing to this continuing decline in his support ratings. It doesn’t seem to have leveled off yet.

FP: How does the comfort women issue play into that?

GC: I’m sure this issue with the comfort women is hurting him a lot, because there isn’t much sympathy among the Japanese public for his position. I think there’s some concern that it’s leading to a deterioration in relations with the United States, the most important relationship Japan has. As for Abe’s statements, I think he said what he believed without thinking very hard about either playing to his conservative base or what the consequences would be abroad. Before he became prime minister, he was one of the leaders of the group that wanted to revise the so-called Kono statement about Japan’s culpability for forcing those women into sex slavery. So he said what he believed. Yeah, it plays to his narrow base of hard-core right-wing support, but I think it cost him more broadly, both domestically and internationally. The Japanese conservative leadership has not come to grips with World War II, so there’s a politics of denial here. This is not majority sentiment in Japan, but it happens to be a very strong sentiment among the group that’s in power in Japan.

Full interview with Professor Gerald Curtis at Foreign Policy


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April 6, 2007 @ 10:55 am

[…] So, it’s more important for me to consider how China, Japan, South Korea, and the US relate to each other as states, than speculate about how the average Japanese citizen thinks about comfort women or Shinzo Abe (TPR highlights those details). And, there’s a problem, because even Curtis, but generally most pundits, reporters, and scholars, speculate about Japanese public opinion without much insight beyond suspect polling numbers. Even Curtis tossed some offhand percentages, and again I wish there was more interpretative research on those numbers available. When asked about how Prime Minister Shinzo Abe’s approval ratings in Japan and how the comfort women issue plays into that, Curtis is vague: […]

Comment by Ken Worsley

April 6, 2007 @ 1:11 pm

I’m glad you picked up on that, and I like your post on the issue/interview. (I wish I could leave a comment at your blog -side note).

I agree that I don’t like hearing things like, “there isn’t much sympathy among the Japanese public for his position” without at least an attempt to corroborate the numbers. My own (anecdotal, not scientific) observations have been different; quite a few people I’ve talked to have been pushed right by the firestorm of criticism that has come from the US media. Whether or not the issue is properly understood (and I would say that it is not properly understood on either side, nor by Mr Abe, nor by myself, nor by Mr Curtis), people get defensive when they perceive that their country is being attacked.

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